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I have previously tried to answer the question " why multinationals should choose to recruit Swedish engineers in srilankanska ditos? although srilankanska engineers with the exact same skills can be employed in a much smaller sum. " Karl Wackerberg criticize and complements my argument in his latest post why you recruit .
Karl understands, like me, the point of gathering arguments and think about the issue for the future to justify its employment. In today's tough economic activity will reduce Ericsson, Volvo and Saab manufacturing in Sweden. New figures claim that unemployment could exceed 10% before the bottom has been reached. In January was 7.3% unemployed in Sweden. While reports Chinese business media, Ericsson employs in China in 2009. According chinatechnews.com is the issue of more than one hundred new jobs. It is quite clear that there is little evidence to suggest that tomorrow's jobs are in Sverige.Tvärt about.
To return to the dialogue saw Karl Wackerberg my argument. For the fösta parts he rejects the view that history and tradition is important. Of course, we look forward Karl, I agree!
Chinese junk replica. A poor attempt to copy Western products
The statistics I present for a patent may also be possible to discuss. Karl believes that there is no tradition for srilankaneser to apply for a patent, which explains the numbers. Karl also believes that our ignorance of their culture is an important factor. Enough is it that Sri Lanka has contributed much to the industrialized and developed world that we just do not know. I do not know, but our guess is NO.
Sri-Lanka, according to me, like China, India and Taiwan, good examples of countries striving to copy Western culture and living standards. They are crying out for our cars, phones and inventions, and has become the world champion at copying. See, for example, an article in New technology of the iPhone.
No, for the understanding of western products and markets requires Western engineers. The question is whether it is required srilankanska engineers to understand their markets? The answer is chipped. YES if you want to sell srilankanska products. NO, if your company wants to sell Western products and Western culture, which is largely what is in demand in these countries.
One can also wonder how good the quality is on the srilankanska universities and their students? Where were you educated a person who requires 18 SEK / h salary? A top university has tuition fees of over 100 thousand. Give me the calculation that shows that SriLankan with 18 crowns per hour can see that an investment in training of over a million dollars. I do not think it will suit! True, it is so that a person in today's society may acquire great knowledge on the training of lower status. Maybe even on their own through the internet. It tends to be that companies want a workforce with fine paper. Something that probably will not change as population growth increases. The table shows the impossible calculus. The loan is assumed to be at a million dollars with a 5% annual interest rate with no amortization (generously). The annual salary is estimated at 18 kr / h, 40 h week with no holidays.
| Education | - 1 000 000.00 SEK |
| Interest rate 5% | - 50 000,00 kr |
| Salary 18 SEK / h | 37 440.00 SEK |
| - 12 560.00 SEK |
Ranking Lists of Earth University is constantly by different agencies. Timeshighereducation is a välrennomerad list. The list has the best Chinese universities in position 50 and the number two spot on 113th Compared with the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology, Chalmers, Lund and Linköping will place about 200 and higher and UNSW (Sydned Australia), where I will study this fall, on-site 40th Sri Lanka is not on the list. Of course, the criteria can be discussed, but many independent instutut in different parts of the world reaches almost the same conclusions:
Σ: There is hope. Employ Swedish engineers with tradition and knowledge in the future. Hire me!
New technology writes an interesting article about the Crown slump actually saves a lot of Swedish jobs. Consulting Firms placing activities in Swedish offices.
See: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/karriarartiklar/article534129.ece .
Ericsson's R & D manager means however that this is not sufficient to place R & D in the country. The decline must be long term!
Do not understand fully why you warrant to assume that the Sri Lankans would add 100 000kr per semester of training in 5 years? And then why firms that employ people in Sri Lanka would expect to pay as little as 18kr / h for anyone who has been studying at a top university? There are other countries in our region offers quite ok education in English for reasonable sums. All tasks do not require employees with MIT-quality ...
Is not entirely one hundred of how you can acquire all the modern technology (I assume you mean that when you say western products) to the west, it works just the same when non-Western people make and use it. It is also owned collectively, not by the West, it feels osjysst calling it our technology. It specifically is not the technology itself, it works exactly the same regardless of cultural background, but rather how the technology to a certain population, which requires designers, marketers, etc who understand the market you are trying to sell themselves for.
Adopting elements of other cultures is part of globalization, and is rather so that people trying to adopt readily available and relatively superficial culture from the U.S. and really not that much of Europe (which, in turn, often at six months (?) According to the American culture , ...), but does not mean that the basic values and mentality of people has changed a lot. Wanting to have a higher material standard of living is only human, so just because the West has generally higher standard of living does not mean that others try to copy from the West.
The reason for the employment of Swedish engineers should in my opinion not based in culture and tradition, but they actually know (as you say) is necessary and is actually worth paying more for. But hiring someone in Sweden for tasks that anyone can make for a fraction of the price elsewhere is difficult to defend to the data requires an operation based in Swedish tradition.
Glad you are commenting on and for the debate to the surface. However, I think we misunderstand each other a little while I agree with you in your writing. I have done too little research in order to express an opinion on what Sri-Lankanska university costs or what to give a SriLankan an hour. My point is simply that I think the Swedish engineers still should have more knowledge as a result of a higher quality of education.
We should also have a better understanding of our own culture, which in many respects, the pursued and copied. This is perhaps a bad assumption, as you might say, but how do you explain then that Sweden is in fact largely built our prosperity on the export of cars, telephones, and industrial products?
-> Knowledge is perishable but not culture and habits. Knowledge can be read to the internet, in books and from experience.
-> Tradition, experience, pioneering spirit and culture is not as easy to obtain any, should be a major competitive advantage of the Swedish engineer.
I do not really know too little to say about what makes the Swedish engineer attractive. I can only, like you, speculate.
I think it is important to stimulate thoughts about competition as engineers. Perhaps especially now that empires are facing a huge financial challenge. Please continue the debate and came up with more arguments!
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Mmm, very likely that we misunderstand each other.
My real point was more that I think in the long run, then the only way to defend the employment of Swedish engineers to very expensive costs to be that it pays off financially. Believe that you have read more economics than me and are certainly lot of factors that come into play when choosing who and where to employ that I do not have direct eye on, but assumes that productivity per krona invested are among the important factors. In this case, Swedish engineers produce at least about so much more that they cost. Today we can get away with the skills we have are the people who actually live in Sweden and expects the Swedish wage levels, that the products are mainly sold to countries with similar culture, we are closer to the customer, etc., but the more globalized the world becomes, the less will other factors to play role. When the markets in Asia will grow to become the West increasingly less important, and eventually the arguments you have to justify hiring Swedish engineers (understanding of culture and market) to justify the employment of Asian engineers instead.
So, if it is so that the engineer's cultural background is important, this will only be an advantage for us as long as the West is the largest market. But I do not think it is so important because, as I said, do not think that culture is the technique you use, in itself, but rather how much technology you use and how it is used. Everyone in the world can think of good uses for television, mobile phones, computers and ipods, but the content and the way you use it varies from culture to culture. The explanation that we have built our prosperity on cars, telephones, and industrial products is in my opinion, not cultural, but we've been good at producing these products with quality at reasonable cost. We also had many enterprising people with good ideas (which in itself is partly cultural, but also with training to do). Should we continue to build prosperity in Sweden in the export of these goods, we need to maintain it as mentioned earlier. But if there is expertise in other parts of the world to do just as good products and come up with at least as good ideas for a fraction of the cost, so have not Sweden for the edgen we once had.
Your score with pioneering spirit and habits, I can agree with. Belief without evidence, that it might be better mentality in Swedish engineers (just because we have grown up in a country which teaches us to think freely and to education itself has the focus), and it is something we would use to show us attractive. Then becomes very important that in future we can continue their education (from childhood), focusing on it, and that as a Swedish engineer will take that mentality and use it as an argument when seeking employment. This is rather a result of the Swedish culture, and not that we have better understanding of our own culture than anyone else. Agree with you that it's good to have arguments ready to justify his ansällning.
Göttingen answer! You should get a blog and an outlet for writing!